Another small study found no difference in survival or live birth rates with rebiopsied embryos (Cimadomo et al. I cannot even imagine how it mustve been to go through all of that but Im happy to hear you finally got your miracle!!! A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. You got this! Ill come back and edit this post with the link. However, another doctor (2nd opinion) claimed that Receptiva would only be conducted for implantation failure and for those who had never seen positive pregnancy tests. Can I ask why they didn't test them on Day 5? I had a chemical pregnancy last November after a fresh transfer. Did your RE have you take anything other than progesterone and estrogen and aspirin? Do the birth success rates of pgs tested embryos include both those that get a positive pregnancy test and those that dont? I had a chemical with a PGS embryo in October. Congratulations on your pregnancy xxx Check here for the full glossary (please excuse the repeated terms!). Hi! I did do another round of IVF and am now 17 weeks pregnant. So all the aneuploid embryos that were transferred either didnt implant, or miscarried. I honestly wish I had but thats all hindsight now knowing what I knew. With the retrieval statistics, we can include all cycles (like the ones that ended with no blasts to transfer or only abnormal embryos that werent transferred) and that lowers the success rates quite a bit. You can check out my summary of the study here. We had 30 eggs retrieval. I also know that no one can make this decision for me. thats a great suggestion! According to the geneticist, there is as much chance it could be completely normal as the chance that it is abnormal. Segmental mosaics or single chromosome mosaics tend to perform better than multiple chromosome abnormalities which can approach 50% miscarriage rates. My result came with a high risk, 1 in 11 chances of the baby having Down Syndrome. Most of the patients in the studies were <35. I also tested positive for anti-thyroid antibodies. More info in my profile about my testing and treatment, and Im open to answering any questions. My second Beta I dropped to 59. Best of luck to you. At this point I am waiting to start my 5th miscarriage. MENTS We were devastated after our first pgs transfer ended in a chemical, and unfortunately we went on to have one more before finding success. So what if the embryos are euploid? You cant compare the per retrieval and per transfer stats against each other directly. (2017)found no difference in survival rates of embryos that were thawed and biopsied, then refrozen. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. What are the differences between the two tests? In the past PGS was seen as the holy grail - if the chromosomes are normal we should have implantation and a normal pregnancy. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. I also want to add low dose prednisone and lovenox - I have heard from so many of you that even IF no autoimmune issues are found that this combo helps. thanks for sharing! Wishing you the best of luck and baby dust. Embryos with the right number of chromosomes are called euploid and may have a higher chance of making a pregnancy, although the evidence for this is controversial. Try to take extra good care of yourself while you regroup from this cycle, and then go with your instincts for your next cycle. And demand that my lining be over 8 before I allow another transfer to occur? Now I wonder if that could have been the culprit. Im sorry to hear that. In large scale Double Blind Randomized Control Trials (the best method for medical protocol research) PGT did not increase your chances of pregnancy, except in some scenarios. Kelly. What would they tell me and how would they impact protocol differently? He provides weekly summaries of the latest IVF research and posts on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok regularly. That embryo implanted but resulted in a chemical pregnancy. RPL and endomitritis biopsy isnt a new thing, and its the same procedure as an ERA (which I also highly recommend). Please don't give up! Do embryo biopsies for PGT-A match the rest of the embryo? Miscarriage is defined as a loss between clinical pregnancy (detection of a gestational sac or heartbeat) and 20 weeks of gestation. I am so frustrated and emotional, I am not having any pregnancy symptoms, beside some minor vaginal cramping and sore breast. We are at a loss as both embryos transferred (one late last year and one last month) were PGS normal. Lack of common pregnancy symptoms like morning sickness or breast soreness after a positive pregnancy test. Did you ever go through with your day 7 FET? We did accupuncutre 2x a week prior to transfer and a pre/post on transfer day as well. The only thing different medication wise was that I took a baby aspirin once daily starting the day of transfer the second time. Might be worth asking about. When we started I was told by an RE I had a 2% chance of having a baby with my own eggs. Consult with your doctor before making any treatment changes. Best of luck! Well start with euploids, then mosaics, and end with fully aneuploid embryos. Sounds like a beautiful a rainbow miracle! Mosaics are often transferred after euploid embryos have been exhausted, although there is evidence that low level mosaic transfers are comparable to euploid transfers (see here for a review). Every positive thing helps! However, almost all studies and clinic data show that IVF success rates indicates higher pregnancy rates. Note that this is per transfer data. Obviously this is not an ideal situation but sometimes this happens. Obviously, when we look at transfer rates with PGS tested embryos, we are not including all the women who didnt have anything to transfer. Trying naturally, assisted, etc. Hello, I guess I'm facing wasting the investments of stimulation vs potentially wasting the investments in proceeding but also getting more information that might help with future cycles. Meaning that if you begin a cycle, retrieve eggs, produce embryos, then do PGS testing, and at least one embryo comes back normal, 60 - 70% of the time it will lead to a live birth. Hello- Did you do anything different with your FET? Another thing to consider: Has your doctor done a hysteroscopy? One clinic determined IVF with PGS success rates to have a 10% higher pregnancy rate. My RE had said shes usually very cautious when it comes to sending embryos out for PGS testing only because the process can sometimes compromise the embryo itself. My RE didnt change a thing between round 1 and round 2, and I didnt do anything differently. (2018)looked ateuploidembryos (aCGH/SNP) in women <35: Irani et al. About 7 months later I transferred a day 7. Good luck. I hope the ERA works too. I was told by my doctor that when it is a PGS embryo that is miscarried, it is a 50% chance it was something else with the embryo (structural issues with the organs or placenta) and a 50% chance it was something about the moms body. Or is it worth having the actual tests done? I will look into this and mention to my doctor :) Ive been taking 10mg of prednisone but Ive never taken Lovenex. I hope this gives you some hope. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. That said, Im still glad that I pursued additional testing and second opinions just in case. For women who have it, REs may suggest prednisone and lovenox after transfer. My RE also encouraged us to just try another transfer rather than an ERA after our first chemical but then was on board after the second chemical happened. For these groups, about 50% of biopsies had noeuploidembryos. 1) Has anyone else had the immune suppressing protocol NOT work, and then gone on to have it work? PGT-A (formerly PGS testing) is a technique that determines the number of chromosomes in the cells of an embryo. Last January we found out we were pregnant but had a miscarriage at 7 weeks. Weve discussed euploid embryos, mosaic embryos, so what about aneuploid embryos? I know I needed it after my failed FET and I really didnt have it. I think its valuable information because many people dont realize the chances of not getting blasts/eligible blasts for biopsy. Congratulations again on your success!!! Because of my age and being diagnosed with diminished egg reserve we did "embryo batching" and I had 4 rounds of egg retrievals before moving onto any transfers. I had the biopsy done twice; one to test (which I was positive for) and one to ensure it was no longer present after a round of strong antibiotics. It had an extra chromosome from the sperm and another from the egg. While I know my struggles are not unique I still feel so alone in this journey. For that reason my RE said she would start testing such as ERA after a second failed transfer but didnt think it was necessary after the first failed transfer. PGS can increase the rate of clinical pregnancy. Check mycomplete guide to mosaic embryosto learn more about mosaics, or mycomplete guide to PGT-Ato get more background on PGT-A (akaPGStesting). Besides that, there are no gaurantees of both sticking. I feel like your doctor should have mentioned the ERA and biopsy by now. Check here for the full. We were hoping for a Christmas miracle however that was short lived. Tiegs (2020) in their multicenter prospective study transferred 414 blastocysts that were only tested using PGT-A after the pregnancy outcome.So no one knew what was being transferred. However, this study did not focus on the >35 age group, which is likely to be the most benefited by this technique. I had a chemical pregnancy with my first FET. Why do we have to wait until we have a second devastating failure? Both Chemical pregnancies my lining was under 7. We are absolutely crushed. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I would like to use the delestrogen shots next time instead of the patches and pills which seem to do nothing for me. After that we decided to just go straight to IVF given the chance of successful pregnancy with IUI was very low. Aww happy your second round worked! Thanks for sharing your story because it does give me hope! Im so sorry for your losses. Reminder: I have an integrated glossary in the text (terms are underlined with a dotted black line, and when you tap on it a window will pop up with the definition). It would be a miracle to have a similar experience as yours , I know you said age is a factor, but you could always take a month or two off for your mental health and then re-assess. We put back a normal PGS tested embryo. I paid a fortune for those sessions (I dont have insurance). Im going to talk to my dr about getting this test done. No PGS testing During my first IVF cycle, when we only created 2 normal embryos out of 18 eggs (my husband's sperm is great), it seemed like embryo quality would have explained the first two chemical pregnancies. Thanks for commenting! The usefulness comes when someone who is starting IVF and considering PGS testing. I guess this probably qualifies me as a poor responder which obviously doesn't feel good after all the other issues we've had. How does anyone not go completely crazy through this whole process???? Chemical pregnancies occur so early that many people who miscarry don't realize it. So what gives now?? Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). Bradley et al. 2 - IVF both miscarriages around 6 weeks 4 PGT-M and PGT-A vs. Prenatal Testing A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. For the autoimmune stuff above I was tested by Alexander Kofinas. I have to say that I'm not 100% sure I needed any of the extra things we did- but I wanted to try whatever I could and these things couldn't hurt. This ended up working for me after my biochemical pregnancy. 2) I feel like I've turned over every stone in trying to figure out what is wrong; does anyone have insight into how one would determine whether the problem is with the egg or with my body? The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Dear T3BK, thank you so much for your reply! I am curious to hear other peoples experiences, especially with 6 days blasts. Check out mycomplete guide to embryo grading and success ratesto learn more about embryo development, grading and success rates. Like embryo grades in the previous section, it looks like IVF with PGS success rates may vary based on how fast the embryo develops, particularly for Day 7.
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