This anonymous data helps us to better understand users' needs and customize the website accordingly. However, rather than a reference to violence, this POF USA Revolution centers on the advancement in firearms designin a nutshell, the Revolution is an AR-15-size rifle in .308 Win. The pattern element in the name contains the unique identity number of the account or website it relates to. Steel case extracts, like they claimed, pmc bronze doesn't have to be mortared, but won't extract, and any hunting load I've found needs to be mortared, and there are deep marks on the rims of every case from the extractor yanking on a stuck case. More to the point, its also fun to shoot. Surrounding the barrel is a 14.5-inch free-floating monolithic handguard system that encompasses the entire length of the upper receiver. This situation could also cause more recoil. I'm curious to see how the new stuff stacks up. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! However, the longer and adjustable POF DIctator gas system provides additional insurance that the rifle will function reliably without the heavy internals. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Undoubtedly, folks will wonder how significantly a lightweight .308 Win. The rouge looks interesting to me and all, but Im pretty skeptical when I hear POF. It has almost zero creep, a clean break, that is followed by a short reset. According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. Texas Gulf Coast/Kansas. 6.8lbs. This is threaded onto a 16.5-inch nitride heat-treated barrel with a 1:10 twist. POF is one of the very few manufacturers that tests their .308 rifles in full-auto. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". The magazine well is noticeably flared for fast reloads. accuracy, and reliability. Both had bad head spacing and my .308 got a round stuck in the chamber. It also liked the Sierra Gamekings but that was a little pricey for nighttime hog hunting. We conduct in-depth, unbiased reviews on firearms and accessories. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. With 168 gr match handloads I have shot a 3/8 group. And the Rogue is lighter. Well, youd be wrong. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Next, I threw the Revolution DI bolt carrier group on a scale and compared its weight to a regular AR-15 carrier assembly. Due to its popularity, companies frequently update and improve loads, projectiles and powders on a much larger scale than most other cartridges. The magazine then uses that time to push the stack of ammunition up into the magazines feed lips where the bolt coming forward strips a round and shoves it into the chamber. During testing I found the Revolutions handguard shape and size to be comfortable in the hand. The Best of both worlds: After nearly 4 years of waiting, Dan Wesson's DWX is here. The Revolution is an AR-15, chambered in 308, not an AR-10. Each of these are unique to POF-USA and the result of extensive development and testing. BTHP ammunition, and measured just 0.48". This serves to reinforce the top of the upper receiver and is five times thicker than a standard flattop AR-15 upper receiver. It is an extremely rigid platform that anchors at the barrel nut and also has a tail piece that extends over and attaches to the top of the receiver. Is the Revolution perfect? This features carrier cradle extensions to ensure the carrier is always supported by the buffer tube. The barrel is fluted to reduce weight, and 14.5- and 12.5-inch lengths are available. Acquired one a month or so ago and it does live up to the hype. I cant say that I blame him. POF has come up with its own end plate that is slightly lengthened to accommodate the grip being moved back, and it has a QD mount in it. You are using an out of date browser. Also not impressed with the poor machine work on every part. So I asked DeSomma. This prevents carrier-tilt and premature wear of the buffer tube. This includes not only information about their purchase and use, but also the promotion of firearm safety and training. Chris Johnson, FN Senior Product Manager, walks us through two new FN striker-fired pistols at SHOT Show 2023: the FN 510 Tactical, chambered in 10mm Auto, and the FN 545 Tactical, chambered in .45 ACP. So, this design isnt an AR-10, nor is it a small-frame design like the Colt 901, which others copied years later. The triple port muzzle brake certainly reduces muzzle rise. It is one of the first cartridges to benefit from new technology where less popular designs have to wait for the technology to trickle down to them. Theres no big buildup of carbon on the bolt and carrier, so you dont need to laboriously scrub down the action. There are multiple sling mounting points, including a QD mount at the rear of the receiver. AR-10 pattern rifle can be configured. a very light pistol . This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. POFs ambidextrous lower receiver allows for complete functionality of the bolt catch, bolt release and magazine release for either left- or right-handed shooters. magazines and the larger bolt-face diameter required to fit around the case head. It stands out from the AR-15 crowd due not only to its features but also to the sheer size of its magazine well. Normally there are two bolts that hold a carrier key in place. Two words for all politicians. None of that matters if the gun doesnt work. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Theres also a bolt hold-open button inside the trigger guard. The upper receiver assembly is cross-pinned onto a unique lower receiver. POF Revolution DI .308 Win Specs Action: Direct Impingement Semiauto Chambering: .308 Win (tested), 6.5 Creedmoor Capacity: 20 Barrel: 16.5" (tested), 18.5" Muzzle Device: POF Triple Chamber Brake Collapsed Length: 34" Forend: POF Renegade 14.5" with M-LOK and Rails Bolt Carrier: POF Key-Lock DI 5.56 Lower Assembly: Billet POF GEN4 Ambi Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. I'm still in the wait and see mode for one. Nice gun. Stocky's Owner Don Bitz walks David Faubion through the company's new rifle stocks for 2023. POFs patented anti-tilt Carrier Cradle buffer tube eliminates the bolt tipping common to piston-driven ARs and ensures the bolt carrier is always supported even while in battery. shot great with and without can . The Revolutions chamber features POF-USAs E dual-extraction system to improve reliability. Not just send it back in non working order and basically say go pound sand. It burns dirtier than most, and the steel cases, when used in large quantities, are hard on chambers. . It was accurate, too. POF-USAs Revolution possesses all the accuracy of a heavier, harder-kicking, bolt-action rifle in a trim, lightweight, autoloading package. I know you always hear when something is bad more than when it is good, but I also feel that companies that put out bad product should be held to the fire and let others know buyer beware. You can see how close it now sits to the rear takedown pin. That solid reputation was still accurate at the time of my last POF purchase, a 2018 Revolution which truly is a machinist's dream, and even looks great under a jeweler's loupe. This cookie, set by Cloudflare, is used to support Cloudflare Bot Management. Further reductions in weight come from the fluted barrel. POF REVOLUTION DI SPECIFICATIONS Type: Direct impingement, semiautomatic Caliber: 7.62 NATO Capacity: 10, 20 rds. Will be hitting the range this weekend despite my scope not being here. So why would you want a 7.62 AR-15? This particular rifle would be a kicker, expensive and not legal in many NRA type matches, and certainly you would not want a .308 in three gun. It excels in both form and function. It is not an AR-10; the much larger stoner design that was chambered in 308. As a result, the NRA is forced to restrict the sending of certain materials and information into California. Many of the parts are proprietary, but the ones that arent are compatible with the AR-15, not the AR-10. To date, I have zero failures to extract and it shoots everything I throw at it save for some heavy Remington rounds. Overall, I dont have many negative things to say about it. Over the years Ive tested a number of his production guns in various calibers, so I was interested to try the new Revolution. Gave it a good look before accepting but it's all there. It is a 6.8 pound AR-15 chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO. Alexa analytics service - keep track on user informations. POFs receiver has this capability. cartridge and the 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington cartridge. POF-USA's Revolution possesses all the accuracy of a heavier, harder-kicking, bolt-action rifle in a trim, lightweight, autoloading package. Running 120 grain Winchester PDX-1 it is noticeably less than an AK. There would only be pieces left. haha. I considered SR-25, DD, Aero, LMT. (O.T.) For cost (less than KAC and LMT) and size (smaller than all) reasons, I decided to try the POF Revolution DI. The gun is also beating itself to death and rolling a burr on the ejection port, and gouging the cam pin. Vimeo installs this cookie to collect tracking information by setting a unique ID to embed videos to the website. While this is an exciting development, it could also be a cause for concern. Give a Gift Its not uncommon to find ambidextrous AR lower receivers, but models that allow a left-handed shooter to lock the bolt to the rear without taking his firing hand off the pistol grip are hard to find. :-) "The Evolution of the Black Rifle"Personalized Auth. They suggest a 500rd break in and that they likely won't do anything if I send it back. The barrel is fluted to reduce weight, and 14.5- and 12.5-inch lengths are available. Inside the ReVolt Heavy upper receiver, you'll find a .308-proportioned bolt and carrier. On receiving the Revolution DI for testing, I separated the upper and lower receivers and removed the bolt carrier group for inspection. POF-USAs drop-in trigger is installed, and it is designed to break at 4.5 pounds. POF-USA outfits the rifles fluted barrel with a three-port muzzle brake designed to control gas dispersion and reduce muzzle rise. The Dictator allows you to dial down the recoil to the point where it is pretty much the same as a 556, just like an AR-15. case. This innovation greatly reduces the stress imparted on the cam pin and extends its life. The design also incorporates an ambidextrous bolt catch button located just behind the magazine well. The two things many find most appealing about this cartridge are its performance and sheer availability. I mean does it really take 15 days to slap a sticker on a box and get it out the door? So how does the Revolution perform? What about recoil? The magazine release, bolt lock and safety/selector can all be operated from either side of the receiver, and receiver tensioning screws eliminate any play between the upper and lower receivers. The bolt and the barrel extensions outwardly share the .223s dimensions, but with changed geometry to accommodate the larger .30-cal. No one has achieved it quite like POF-USA. . What is really impressive to me is the accuracy. It puts a reasonably heavy .30 caliber projectile on target at a respectable velocity. The quality, fit and finish along with the . Yet, the takedown pin placement remains exactly the same as a normal AR-15. The stock is comfortable, and the buttpad provides a lot of surface area and doesnt slip around. This brake does a good job managing recoil and muzzle rise but, like most brakes, it increases the muzzle blast. The new rifle is built on an aluminum billet chassis with carbon-fiber forend and cheek riser featuring V-block bedding. Don't get excited about a low price and do a bit of research! It is 16.5" in length and is nitride-treated for corrosion and wear resistance. The Revolutions receiver is shorter than an AR-10s and has been designed to function with an AR-15 bolt carrier, charging handle, and buffer system. This is some of the most abusive testing possible because heat builds up quickly; Every time a .308 Win. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Plus, it features four QD sling mounting points. (extended) The AR pistol features many 5.56-dimension parts such as the charging handle, bolt carrier, cam pin, buffer, heat sink barrel nut and handguard. Great. POF didnt stop there. I wouldnt go as far to say that an AR-10 is cumbersome, but I dont think youll find anyone who says that it feels as good as the smaller AR-15. THE Revolution PD SBR uses a 5.56 bolt carrier and other 5.56 parts allowing for a shorter overall receiver size and reduced weight. The single best .308 semi around is still the M1-A. It also pushes back slightly on the case while the extractor is pulling it from the chamber. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. POF installed a rifle-length gas system on our 16-inch-barreled test rifle chambered in .308 Win. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. I dont have anything to add except that the reports online about problems were all with the piston model. I was using various parts of the target to dial the scope in first and ran out of clean target, LOL. Its accurate and reliable, and the 7.62 cartridge hits hard. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Kinda soured me on POF. The system is designed so it cannot be reassembled incorrectly. It does not store any personal data. Further reductions in weight come from the fluted barrel. All Rights Reserved. Frank DeSomma, owner and founder of Patriot Ordnance Factory, instead decided to give people exactly what they had been asking foran AR-15-size platform chambered for the .308 Win. (tested) Stock: MFT, adjustable Grip: MFT Length of Pull: 11.5 in. The Revolution uses a standard buffer and a mil-spec rifle receiver extension, however, the buffer spring is heavier than the standard AR-15 part. You have some avalible,? Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Those frigging criminals only want to CONTROL ALL OF US. I am generally not a fan of brakes so I would probably switch it out for a flash hider. They cut 4 very small groves in the neck of the chamber. I don't plan to ever bench it after sight in. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Theres a balancing act that occurs and it pits durability against weight against cartridge selection. As Nancy Reagan used to say, JUST SAY NO!. AR-10s, while good, I dont think ever saw the success of the smaller AR-15, due to the larger size of the AR-10. If he were alive today, I believe the POF Revolution would be his one rifle. All in all, its an impressive piece of engineering. Its a simple solution that reduces stress on the extractor, extending the parts life and enhancing reliability. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The one issue there is no getting around is the size difference between a .308 Win. I particularly like the ability to lock the bolt back and release it from a firing grip. The AR-15 is inherently smaller and handier than an AR-10. Nobody is making you buy a gun you cant afford. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". We were pleased to discover that, in this case, the answer is not badly at all. If you want a small frame AR10 that does deliver accuracy while being lightweight, the F4 Defense SF10 is the only option. When a cartridge is fired, they allow a small amount of gas pressure to flow backwards and push on the shoulder of the spent casing. Follow-up shots are fast, and the rifle is eminently fun to shoot, although a bit loud. The Judge has been promoted! (David Fortier photo) While these intermediate cartridges are good, they are simply out-muscled by full-power rifle cartridges like the .308 Win, 6.5mm Creedmoor and 6mm Creedmoor. My local gunsmith just happened to be going to Arizona for a match and he was kind enough to drop them off at their door. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. DeSomma did say that he conducted extensive destructive testing on the rifle and is extremely confident in its durability. You did read, like I did, that the gas block can be adjusted down until recoil is much like a 5.56? Join the Official Bigshooterist Patreon Family: https://www.patreon.com/BigshooteristBuy My Book! Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. . Got the DI to shave off a few more ounces. U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- There was this guy, Jeff Cooper, maybe youve heard of him. I think the Revolution Di is a great rifle. Effective muzzle brake Buffer only weighs 2.9 ounces. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. What about bolt tilt, premature interior receiver wear, or other durability issues? Trigger components are contained in an anodized aluminum housing. Due to POFs adjustable gas block, they call the Dictator, in combination with their muzzle brake, recoil is actually very light. put cherry bomb on and silencerco Hybrid with plan B ( Trash Panda didn't put on tonight). Seems quite shortsighted of them. The full-size selector on the right side interferes with my grip as I take the gun off safe. Now, check availability and cost. Holds true in this circumstance. They should have sent you a new rifle, at very least make it actually run. Very interested in getting a rogue but I will let the reviews come in first. Then add one click to be safe and youre done. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. For decades, hunters and shooters have been looking to improve the terminal and exterior ballistics of the AR-15 with cartridges like the 6x45, 6.5mm Grendel and others. I don't know of any production rifles in 308 Winchester with a 1-8" twist. Be sure to check out our Facebook and Instagram. Its still a .308 Win. This is a great load to consider if overpenetration is a concern. Absolutely no word from the gun "warehouse" I purchased the Revolution from. This cookie is used to keep track on user informations and reports it to Alexa analytics service. Even so, the Revolution will appeal to many who desire a rifle capable of performing a variety of diverse tasks. Riding inside is a high nickel-phosphate-coated bolt carrier group that includes POF-USAs patented roller cam pin. Not really tried for accuracy, this was me banging away from a bench, until they called cold range but I would say about 1" to 1 1/2" at 100. The rifles bolt carrier group (BCG)uses a roller cam pin designed to eliminate scoring on the inside of the upper receiver. The bolt carrier is nitride heat treated and the bolt itself is nickel plated. They were less than stellar when I purchased two of their piston rifles, one in .556 and one in .308. I shoot the 168 SMKs and this holds it own against my other match AR10s. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen - 2. I put the Calvin Elite trigger. i have Rogue pistol and dictator gas block coming - should get monday. This minimizes the amount of stress on the part and enhances the service life of the rifle. accuracy guarantee on the Revolution, and our results proved the rifle is capable of surpassing that goal. Your email address will not be published. What that gives you is one seriously compact and nimble 308 rifle. The manufacturer uses its Gen 4 lower receiver design on the Revolution. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. That was obvious, unfortunately they tune it to work in a narrow band for very low quality ammo. The slight increase in overall diameter is necessary to fit the .308s case head. This vents just enough gas back to push the casing from the chamber, so that you get true push-pull extraction. Well I talked my self out of the Revolution and am going to get the Rogue instead, $1700 vrs $2450. Youtube - Track the views of embedded videos. This features relief cuts to reduce weight while still retaining the forward assist. I put a Calvin Elite in it and now she rocks. For probably as long as I have been alive, the 7.62 NATO/.308 Win. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The article is about a lightweight, 6.8 lb, .308, not a 3006 that weighs between 9.5 lb to 11.6 lb. The 16 POF Revolution DI weighs only 6.8 pounds. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. The controls are well laid out and easy to operate. I guess its about time someone copied Dark Storm Industries on a baby .308. The 6.5 mm Grendel, 6.8 mm SPC and .300 Blackout are examples of cartridges developed to fit within this envelope. (Mil-spec-only tests between room temperture to -40 degrees, i.e., the Sharpie Test.). This law also restricts communications that promote an organization such as ours. The TaurusTX 22 Compact delivers class-leading reliability, capacity, and shootability in a 22 LR platform, and it's cut for a slide-mounted mini red dot. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. It worked amazingly well during run and gun drills and even suppressed. Some of the weight savings are due to the reduced size of the receiver set. Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. There is a lot of technology and sophisticated design in the Revolution DI from POF-USA. Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. The most logical answer is because it couldnt be done. Patriot Ordnance Factory Revolution 308 Winchester 16.5in Semi Automatic Modern Sporting Rifle - 20+1 Rounds -This also isn't a normal small frame .308, it's smaller! Can't see the ambi-controls having any sort of effect in that regard. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Its inside the trigger guard, so the rifle can be easily operated from either shoulder. It maintains the compactness, maneuverability, and superior ergonomics of the AR-15, while having the significantly greater knockdown power of the 308 cartridge. Using Norma Match 168gr, we walked this 16 inch barreled 308 all the way out to 1000 yards. Made from premium-grade, vegetable-tanned leather, the Burdette Custom Holsters Detective SA-35 holster is a custom outside-the-waistband (OWB) model for the Springfield Armory SA-35 semi-automatic pistol. The rifle has an overall length of just 34 inches with the stock collapsed and weighs in at only 7.3 pounds. The machining looked fantastic on the three I have owned, but its a gun, not wall art, first and foremost it should function reliably. When POF says this rifle is a .308 thats the size of an AR-15, its true! Otherwise, the Revolution ran without issue. Bob Meinert, FN Marketing Director, introduces FN's first commercial pistol suppressor, the FN Rush 9Ti. The new 9mm suppressor can mount easily to any pistol barrel threaded x28 inches and doesn't compromise on sound suppression, gas blowback or recoil. The gun is smooth shooting and easy to control. The nut surrounds the chamber and throat area, providing 17 times more heat dissipation than a standard mil-spec piece. This rifles overall size is another point you dont want to miss. Dark Storm would have to have a time machine for that to be even remotely accurate. It seemed to . All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. On the defensive side, it can penetrate intermediate barriers and outmuscle lesser intermediate cartridges. Its location toward the end of the barrel increases dwell time and lowers the bolt carriers velocity. Set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin, this cookie is used to record the user consent for the cookies in the "Advertisement" category . This gun with 60rd looks rougher than my ar15 with 5k. The bolt carrier group. MOA Accuracy Guarantee - All of our 5.56, .308, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 300 BLK chambered Firearms are guaranteed MOA or better. Was leaning towards a build using a DPMS G2 but now I see the POF is even smaller. Required fields are marked *. The DI features POFs nine-position adjustable DIctator gas block. The mass and fins on the nut absorb and dissipate heat rapidly. I've now had two rounds at the range with the Revolution DI and the Burris 1-8x24 FFP. One rifle to fill every role, seems like an unrealistic expectation, some kind of unachievable goal. The only issue I ran into during testing was extraction with Russian Silver Bear ammunitions zinc-coated steel cases. I have the Revolution 308 and its by far my favorite AR10. Makes sense lennyo. Today's testing didn't go great. It shouldnt be luck of the draw on whether you get what you paid for. About the author: Finally getting back to this. Machined from billet aluminum, the lower features an integral, enlarged trigger guard and is completely bilateral. Trying to stuff the .308 Win. Well, it fit right up until the Revolution DIs bolt ran into the back of the AR-15 barrel extension. A good-looking piece, its light, quick to the shoulder and with all the features youd see in a high-end AR-15. The dry weight of most similar rifles is closer to 9 pounds. After just one range trip, the POF Revolution Di feels as well broken in as other rifles I have been shooting for years. Have a Revolution DI on order, waiting forever and a day to get the ship notification. I've read that they are decent for reliability (ammo dependent) but only mediocre for accuracy. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. It buys a lot of time for the magazine. Bought a Rogue today . The bolt, extractor and firing pin are hard-chromed a wise choice for these high-stress parts. it did crimp up necks on 2 of 5 casings. @Agostino As the saying goes, if you have to ask you cannot afford it. Its numerous innovations and well-executed manufacture make it an appealing option for anyone in the market for a .308 Win.-chambered semi-automatic rifle.
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