The show is known for its deep-dive journalism and innovative sound design. Web72 votes, 254 comments. These are such alien looking creatures. This is a field of four. That sally dream is she's an environmental Law professor at the Berkeley School of Law in California? Doesn't matter point is an introduced species. It was breath taken. She points right next to it. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Alan Alda on the new yorker radio hour from W N. Y. So they went island by island, took a little bit of blood from all these different tortoises. You can just take the best pinta tortoises you find and put those on Penta and you know over the next 200,000 years they will evolve into a pinto tortoise and it could be a bit different than the past pinta tortoise because evolution and mutation and all that doesn't occur the same. The tough question now is if we concede that we can't any longer save all the species, then does that put us in the situation of having to decide which ones will save and which ones we won't, And do we have any basis for making those kinds of decisions? I thought you were gonna say people, it was kind of a collaboration. Scientists had to find clever ways to help the turtles on the island! Our newsletter comes out I like to think of it as a kind of Darwin finch. Which means at least 100 years. You can go, I don't know the depths of the Impenetrable jungle, It's been affected by human activity. He seemed to really like to keep to himself. In any case for about 40 years. Now of course there are no female tortoises on pinta but they thought you know, maybe a zoo somewhere private collection has one because you really never know. We've done so much on the show since last summer. That's really the classical definition of a species. But that's the only possible the first day. But if the hybrids do have a fitness advantage and if they survive, we may be witnessing in hyperspeed the creation of an entirely new species. Yes. But that's four generations of tortoises, not rats. One male tortoise, maybe 50 years old. And then fishermen started making a killing fishing sea cucumber because there was this huge demand. And he says he would go on these dives. 24 June 2012. So for starters they put up all these traps. And the thing to know is that even though these are three different species, they're actually really hard to tell apart visually. But Darwin didn't consider this possibility. The ideal judas goat, if you will is a goat that would search for and be searched for and that would never get pregnant. The interview originally from a podcast called The Relentless Picnic, but presented by one of Lulus current podcast faves, The 11th is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. Indeed. 23 Weeks 6 Days That's exactly how he sees it. So thank you very much for the interview. They've got to limit their catch. It's hot, it's bright. They tagged, we collected genetic samples, got some D. N. A. And so the technique that we would use was you would fire up your helicopter, you fly around, you'd find some goats, capture goats, capture them live and then come back back to base camp, offload them and you put a radio collar on them and you throw them back on the island. They weren't sure they'd eventually name him George lonesome George. Well the honeymoon's over Galapagos. You know, there's green mangroves, black lava flows and pink flamingos. Even if they could for who knows maybe a million years. This is to control the population. You know, they eat goats in africa, you know, why don't you get lions on there? They don't know the exact date. So carl kept mulling this problem, what would it take to basically make you know, the perfect judas goat. He like points at the cars in front and behind as if like dude, seriously, you see how many of us there are. This is the place where Darwin began to develop his theory of evolution and it's the place 100 70 year or maybe 280 years later where our producer tim howard landed wearing fishnets and a bad brains t shirt too fine to find a very different landscape than what Darwin saw. And more importantly, can we? She says, you have islands with massive volcanoes and forests, tree ferns that grow, you know, well above a human sight. So anything you can do helps us thank you for listening and being part of this journey of telling all of these stories about our wild, crazy big small world. Hey, this is radio lab. He just kind of points. Go to Shopify dot com slash radio lab. Clearwater, FL, 33763. Set up a little expat community and started breeding with the locals. Yeah. And if you think about it, we all have this, we all have this this picture of what we want to bring it all back to. Dylan keith is our Director of sound design. We are ascending and we have our dreams. Yes, this fellow, he's a well known tortoise researcher. The wrench of the white man. Not worse. This one, which first aired in 2014, tells the strange story of a small group of islands that keeps us wondering: will our m. Oh yeah. From their Penta ancestors than others. There is where evolution is very strong. WebPodcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? And just how far are we willing to go to stop that from happening? iTunes Overcast App Radiolab Page RADIOLAB Baby Blue Blood Drive Did you know that horseshoe crabs have blue blood? WebThe interview originally from a podcast called The Relentless Picnic, but presented by one of Lulus current podcast faves, The 11th is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. And if you think of 100,000 goats eating everything in their path, every sort of plant that even the bark off of trees, they destroy the forest. And that's paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. WebThe Galapagos Islands are famous for inspiring Charles Darwin to form his Theory of Evolution based on the biodiversity he'd observed there. And this is what I think is really. Uh but they ultimately were infertile. You have to find all those other goats circle real low, you fly around them, round them up, try and get them in a single group and then They start picking off the goats one x 1 x one and they're actually videos online where you see these packs of goats running for their lives. C studios. 2.2K views about 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to And meanwhile the finch populations are just getting decimated charlotte says that they're trying to respond. Oh my God. They showed me where the traps are trapped hanging from a tree here and you see them actually all over santa cruz. And those are really interesting ideas, but at some point they're gonna get hungry and they're going to start eating all the other things that you know, you treasure, like the occasional tourists in any case after endless planning and meetings took eight years, I think they commence project Isabella. And this is the place of course where Darwin landed in 1835. You know, they basically feed on the blood of the baby birds. But it's an average. Nearly 200 years later, the Galpagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose and perhaps answer critical questions about the fragility and They learned that this sound means, so the goats start hiding so they're going to bushes, they won't move, They learn to stand under a tree holding their breath. The flies spreading island to island. So they called around offered huge cash rewards. I think it might have been the worst, We went up into treetops. But compared to the medium tree finch is they are because the medium tree finch is were on the brink of extinction. So they're all kind of converting over into the tourism economy. I'm Robert Krulwich. Yeah. And we all agreed because the calls are really distinct, easy to tell apart. That's Shopify dot com slash radio lab. Thanks to Trish Dolman and screen siren pictures, Alex gala font Mathias espinosa. And what we'd do is we'd find a location as close as we could. And of course the shock was there was a wave went around the room when he said that I recall seeing a second wave of the spanish translation passed around the room. Is a tortoise trying to get over a branch. Yes. And how far are we willing to go to return a place to what it was before we got there. Thanks to Matthew judas guilty without whom tim would have been crushed just by the sheer amount of tape that he gathered. He never really liked other tortoises much. This is Radio Lab, and today elements. Well, there's there's a couple of clues that say maybe, Yeah, for example, when you look in the nests, they seem to have fewer parasites and they seem to have more babies that survive 15%. Can I get you to introduce yourself? Addeddate. Yeah. Do you remember the song types? Not on Penta that had a lot of Penta D. N. A. I remember very clearly the moment was very very exciting. Okay, so quick context, Galapagos Islands, cluster of islands way off the coast of Ecuador in the Pacific 19 bigger islands, bunch of smaller ones. So if you can better automate that and leverage intelligence to make sense. But I mean in the bigger picture, you can make the argument that humans now affect every square meter of the earth. I said it was impossible. You had plants re emerging, you had trees growing back and in a really short period of time. You just put your hands around. Did a genetic analysis and found something they never expected a group of tortoises. She's a researcher at the Charles Darwin foundation. The medium tree finch has patrol that boundary. Ariane wack pat, Walters and molly Webster With help from Bowen wong. And based on that genetic data the small tree finch is not doing great. Three tree finch species, the small, the medium and the large, and we went out and we set up our miss nets and we caught the birds and we measured them. We talk about going from weeks to hours, two minutes, two seconds at its core artificial intelligence for me has always been about decision support. And basically when you have only judas goats meeting up with other judas goats, then you can say the goats have been eliminated, you're done A point, they got to at least on Isabella in mid 2006. I want this to work. I didn't say it was silly. Oh yes. This hour we take a look at what happens when we all try to live together. WebTranscripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)! Is this the way that everybody who works on the tortoises thinks about it this kind of deep time. That's. Wow, that is freaking amazing, describe them. Or maybe it's 10,000 hammerhead sharks. The natural skied from the first chapter Who wrote this song, Peak Open Zone. So damn case in point. Which should never actually happened because these are totally separate species. a short break. It's customized for your needs, provides tools to manage your day to day needs and drive sales and helps make your idea real. But then at the same time the tourism economy has been taking off and so all of these fishermen, they find that it's easier for them to actually survive by using their boats to take tourists around island island. Things might not be silly. WebGalpagos - Podcast As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! Description Description He visited an island called Fernandina and the first thing I saw was a lava flow that was moving. What's that? Radiolab ' s first nine seasons (February 2002April 2011) comprised five episodes each. Subsequent seasons contained between nine and ten episodes. Season 15 began airing in January 2017. In 2018 the show's seasonal and episode format became obscured when online content moved from radiolab.org to wnycstudios.org. more about how IBM is using AI to help organizations create more resilient and sustainable infrastructure and operations by visiting IBM dot com slash sustainability this week on the new yorker radio hour, we're joined by Alan Alda Alda talks about growing up around burlesque shows his life as an actor, science feminism and how he took up podcasting in his eighties. And just how far are we willing to go to stop that from happening? Initially it was carl's suggestion was goats, gregarious and like being in groups, they're herd animals. We found this on 13 islands. It's kind of late, the sun is just starting to set. We are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. Almost every day during that time fraser would fly over Isabela island, two guys with two shooters either side of the helicopter, what you do is so you come across and you're flying along and you might see one goat says you follow that goat as it ran away until it joined its friends. In fact says that it's actually in the same family as the regular house fly, but it's actually a boat fly called the Lorna's down. So go join at radio lab dot org slash join and I'll see you all later. So what if we took those tortoises and read them together, select them for the next generation. Those arguments came up frequently to which carl would respond, Are we going to let tortoises go extinct. 179 years later, the Galapagos There's a little hole into the brain of this little finch. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts, I'm john, I'm robert Krulwich, this is Radio lab today, a whole hour on the Galapagos islands. the new york public school system has been called the most racially segregated in the country. Today, the strange story of a small group of islands that raise a big question: is it inevitable that even our most sacred natural landscapes will eventually get swallowed up by humans? And they're like, I don't know who the guy was, but it turns out he was the incumbent. But at the time the immediate question was, are there any more because if they could find a female for George, then they could, you know, maybe de extinct the species. And shortly after we walked up, he reached out into this tree and he grabbed this tiny little baby finch right off the branch. But to give an example of the nature of this business that's josh Donlan, he runs an NGO that was involved in project Isabella. But whatever the scene is that just doesn't have any people but is carrying that idea, those pictures in your head even like useful anymore. It's actually the footprint of the white man. I mean like like sergeants. So they choose not to breed. That's what I thought. Our main story is the haunting tale of a chimp named Lucy. They throw a few extra tortoises overboard. But then Sonia told me something really surprising. He wasn't curious. TRT: 59:00 *Breaks: Two 1:00 minute breaks. Oh my God, there are these three massive tortoises just clustered together under a tree. I call it the phoenix blodgett. This is radio lab. More information Yeah, the results of this were absolutely impressive. TRANSCRIPTS We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our So they poked around in the areas where we got the one and I found a shell of a female, how had this female toward has died? Everyone held out hopes for just finding more tortoises back. See? Our fact checkers are diane kelly, Emily Krieger and Adam Sibyl Hi, I'm Erica in Yonkers leadership. But the interesting thing was from year to year it got more difficult. But in the end there's just George that then shifted the focus on now what do we do? I've got my thing over here and you got your thing over there. No, no, no that's not. It's like a soprano saxophone and alto and a 10 or something like that. He sat there getting more and more and more frustrated and finally he just blurted out shoot that tortoise and quit wasting our time because in his view this the single individual was holding up this huge conservation opportunity. The tortoises had different shells depending on the kind of island they lived on. That's cool. This is just to grab a few flies, take them back to the lab and study them so they can learn how to fight them charlotte and paid ads. I'm actually walking down Charles Darwin Avenue just kinda getting the lay of the land when all of a sudden this line of cars comes around the corner honking, endless honking and waving flags, blue flags. External Link A discussion of the attacks on LaBeouf, Rnkk & Turner 's HEWILLNOTDIVIDE.US art project by far-right trolls. Radiolab took down this episode and issued an apology on August 12, 2017, following accusations that it appeared to condone the actions and ideologies of extremist groups. What do they look like? Can you imagine Schools of Hammerhead sharks like 500 800 passing in front of you like tuna. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. That is the sound of a tortoise breathing. The finches look similar but their beaks were always a little bit different and this gets them thinking what if it isn't the way that everybody always says, what if God didn't create every single species in the beginning and leave them unchanged? Radiolab The test-writers definitely listen to this podcast to get ideas for science passages The science passages you see on the LSAT often have to do with evolution, psychology, and interaction between humans and nature. So in 2009 they come up with a stopgap. It rolls over this forest and it catches in the branches of the trees. It's like having a program on you over and over and over again, it gets worse. You know, like nature in its purest form. I worked for island conservation and I'm based here in the Galapagos islands carl's actually the guy who showed me those tortoises, it was just a, it was a barren landscape, barren, barren grounds. We covered disability and access in a way that was totally new for us. It shows you the power. That was definitely not what I thought you were gonna say. So we we go outside. One I particularly love is Radiolab, the NPR mix of nerdy science and audio bombast. Earlier this summer, its gregarious hosts Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich produced an episode entirely on the Galapagos Islands. We all know the Galapagoss role as a laboratory of evolution. And what happens is that as soon as birds start laying eggs, mother flies swoop in and lay their eggs on the base of the nest underneath the finch eggs. The warbler finch is the smallest of the Darwin's finches. But I go up to him and I yell at him, who's your candidate and he said, I am a candidate? On the one hand, the tortoises needed help. And then you wait instinctively that loan go will go and find other goats. And so you end up flying around in an expensive helicopter, not fighting any goes Now the way we deal with that is an interesting one. So something is happening. Listen 18 min The Political Scene | The New Yorker Corpse Demon Just walk past the newspaper that says 72 hours left in the electoral campaign. 179 years later, the Galapagos are You should actually get better with experience. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today. So they did it. It's like so cynical. A little black fly looks like every other fly. But here's what they do know. So that had acted as a barrier basically with goats on one side tortoises on the other. Two females that sort of looked like George but weren't quite the same species and we put them with George to see if we could get him to breed, he never did wasn't interested. So they thought maybe he needs a pinto lady. Darwins 5 weeks on Galapagos pushed him to develop his theory of evolution and thats also why when we think of evolution we think of the Galapagos and in Just going to meet you at the airport. And as he went island to island, he started noticing that there were all these creatures that were really similar to each other but also a little bit different. And the pinot tortoise went extinct. Hello? He says that when he first got to the Galapagos in the eighties, he couldn't believe that the place was real. You know, until the originals are ready. It has a terrible common name in english. Another possibility is sterile insect technique sterilized male flies and introduce them back into the wild so that the female mates with a sterile fly and obviously doesn't produce fertile eggs. Radio Lab was created by Jack Brabham Rod and is edited by soren wheeler lulu. So Darwin's finches In short, Darwin! WebRadiolab Galapagos Podcast RESURRECTION (18:01) 10. Now most of these plants are actually probably harmless and you know like you said Galapagos national park they spend tons of money, tons of time trying to keep invasives out. Really? This one, which first aired As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! And he told me that in the seventies and eighties lobster was fished all year round no restrictions. Oh for sure. WebGalpagos - Transcripts June 24, 2022 Favorite Share Facebook Twitter Messenger WhatsApp Email Copy Link As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, Um, so it's like you have you have a couple of shrew like creatures walking around. Yes I do. Penta is was a very special place. By this point, I'm getting super excited and I'm thinking about Darwin and I start reading Voyage of the Beagle, his book on this nook that I had bought for the trip. And then you go on and actually in under a year through this aerial attack, they end up wiping out 90% of the goats on Isabella. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab. We then went to a wolf volcano island next door and collected two females. 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We want to hit the ground running as we go into the next year and you've heard of the lab, we've been talking about it, we've been so excited about it. You know, they, they plow down vegetation disperse seeds, but for centuries they've been hunted by those whalers and in about 1906 The Penta Tortoise went extinct 1906, a little over 100 years ago. They'll actually go into caves. You just grabbed it just like that. Same exact story that Darwin saw these processes that he described that just never ever stop. WebRadiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 45 episodes Share Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. We are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. It's white and it's really loud. Their mating calls. In the meantime the vegetation on Pinta is growing out of control from an ecological point of view pinter can't wait. I'm the restoration Ecologist at the Charles Darwin foundation. What's that? We're not hunting but you know, looking for fourth day, I was there um I went to the island of floreana which Darwin visited and they're up in the highlands basically in the middle of this yard. What you do is you sit at the back of the tortoise and first you have to get to where they'll allow you to touch them. They burned down a building. Oh my God, he looks a little bit furry, Almost really tiny, vulnerable fledgling of a warbler finch. Science programming is provided by the Gordon and Betty moore Foundation Science sandbox assignment Foundation initiative and the john Templeton Foundation Foundational support for Radio Lab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. They got all the goats, not all the goats mean those judas, goats. For the medium is a check for the large Chee Chee wow. So I took the plane from Kyoto. If they're going to release sterilized male flies into the wild, they have to be able to raise millions of these flies in the lab and they're trying like crazy showing me all of the larvae that hatch today and four baby flies that had just hatched and these little cups. This next part, it's about how far we're willing to go to get something back that we've already lost to restore a place in a creature to its wild state. You're not sad and he's like a friend. She showed me her lab. They were a little bit different depending on which island the finches lived on with the beaks. Mhm tortoises walking around. They get back over the island with this little device. I'm surrounded by shelves and on the shelves are these tiny little plastic cups that are filled with flies. Sutherland was the engineer pilot and a sharp shooter 2004, 3 to 2000 and six. We're God, we might as well get good at it and we're going to have to create these ecosystems based on our best science. We will stay tuned. It was a magical, magical area. And wherever they went, they would lure those male goats out of their caves so that, you know, all in all over the course of this two year program, we had hundreds of judas goats out and using those goats, they were able to go from 94% goat free to 96 to 97 to 98. It's this on ending struggle. Episode Credits:Reported and produced byTim Howard. So whalers and buccaneers. But what if simply putting your foot on the ground can completely transform a place hola back to producer tim Howard. That's charlotte costin. Our staff includes Simon Adler, jeremy bloom becca Bressler, Rachel, Cusick, w. Harry for tuna, david gable Maria paz gutierrez, Sindhu unison bend um matt Kielty anne McEwen Alex Neeson sarah, carry on a rescue it pas sarah sand back. But then she sees something amazing in that genetic data. What happened to the forest, goats, goats? Just because so today a little step back in time to one of my favorite radio producers, tim Howard telling us the story of a truly singular spot on the face of our earth. But then I spoke with this woman. I'm robert Krulwich. It wouldn't notice that you were there. We thought about the worst years ever and all through that listener support was one of the things that kept us going. There is music under the breaks. Image credits: Rene via Adobe Stock. No. Miller and Latif Nasser are co hosts. So you're saying that that that the call, let's go back to when it was good. So that was my first experience. All I remember is having a smile on my face all the time because you know, as a biologist going to Galapagos is like going to mecca. Susie Leuchtenburg is our executive producer. Once the eggs hatch, the eggs hatch of the flies as well in the larvae wriggling little larvae will crawl out from the bottom of the nest up the finch's body into its beak and they go into the noses of the baby finches and just start eating.
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